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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;But, I&#8217;m Not Dead Yet&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Travis Bradshaw</title>
		<link>http://compoundthinking.com/blog/index.php/2008/06/24/but-im-not-dead-yet/#comment-196484</link>
		<dc:creator>Travis Bradshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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Sorry, apparently my excitement and the prospect affected my keyboarding skills.</description>
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<p>Sorry, apparently my excitement and the prospect affected my keyboarding skills.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis Bradshaw</title>
		<link>http://compoundthinking.com/blog/index.php/2008/06/24/but-im-not-dead-yet/#comment-196480</link>
		<dc:creator>Travis Bradshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!  Maybe we could get some sort of info-porn dashboard put together?  The &quot;development status&quot; page on the dokuwiki is pretty slow too.

My team and I are barreling through a bunch of development for QuakeCon (virtually all of our internal tools are TurboGears apps), but after QuakeCon I could definitely contribute myself and a couple friends to development something hot and interesting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!  Maybe we could get some sort of info-porn dashboard put together?  The &#8220;development status&#8221; page on the dokuwiki is pretty slow too.</p>
<p>My team and I are barreling through a bunch of development for QuakeCon (virtually all of our internal tools are TurboGears apps), but after QuakeCon I could definitely contribute myself and a couple friends to development something hot and interesting!</p>
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		<title>By: Noah Gift</title>
		<link>http://compoundthinking.com/blog/index.php/2008/06/24/but-im-not-dead-yet/#comment-196230</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah Gift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 00:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

Having been there the day Jonathan LaCour, me, you and Rick Copeland worked on an early prototype of Turbogears 2.0 on Pylons, I am glad to see that it has come this far.  I actually just looked over Rick and Jonathan&#039;s shoulders and didn&#039;t do any real work to be fair :)

One cool think I am very proud of you, and Turbogears for doing is to stick with a vision, even while it was difficult, and to create a 2.0 version, all the while sharing components with other frameworks such as Pylons, Grok, and Zope ala Repoze.  This is brilliant work and it should be commended.  I do think this outside looking, component based, architecture is the future of Python web development too!

  Keep up the good work, and I hopefully we will hear more about WSGI components being interchanged.   I actually am hoping you blow the trumpet a bit louder about the cool authentication stuff that Repoze and Turbogears worked on together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>Having been there the day Jonathan LaCour, me, you and Rick Copeland worked on an early prototype of Turbogears 2.0 on Pylons, I am glad to see that it has come this far.  I actually just looked over Rick and Jonathan&#8217;s shoulders and didn&#8217;t do any real work to be fair :)</p>
<p>One cool think I am very proud of you, and Turbogears for doing is to stick with a vision, even while it was difficult, and to create a 2.0 version, all the while sharing components with other frameworks such as Pylons, Grok, and Zope ala Repoze.  This is brilliant work and it should be commended.  I do think this outside looking, component based, architecture is the future of Python web development too!</p>
<p>  Keep up the good work, and I hopefully we will hear more about WSGI components being interchanged.   I actually am hoping you blow the trumpet a bit louder about the cool authentication stuff that Repoze and Turbogears worked on together.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Ramm</title>
		<link>http://compoundthinking.com/blog/index.php/2008/06/24/but-im-not-dead-yet/#comment-195752</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Ramm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, I think that we just need to blog more, and I think that our version numbering scheme was making it look like we were just doing tiny bug fixes on the 1.0.x branch, not adding new features. 

We&#039;ll fix those things too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, I think that we just need to blog more, and I think that our version numbering scheme was making it look like we were just doing tiny bug fixes on the 1.0.x branch, not adding new features. </p>
<p>We&#8217;ll fix those things too.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Napoleone</title>
		<link>http://compoundthinking.com/blog/index.php/2008/06/24/but-im-not-dead-yet/#comment-195750</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Napoleone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who are these people?

I have been spending all of my python time over on the django side of things, and jet I still hear about all the cool stuff going on with TG. The progress you made at PyCon was (once again) astounding. I don&#039;t consider myself an &#039;insider&#039; and yet I am amazed at the volume of work everyone is getting done.

I guess you just need an RSS feed on all the planets showing all the commits for all the projects. 

Or do one of those new visualizations for the projects.
SQLAlchemy is alredy done:
http://vimeo.com/1227290

Or have a sprint called &#039;Kitten Mash&#039; so PETA can protest it.</description>
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<p>I have been spending all of my python time over on the django side of things, and jet I still hear about all the cool stuff going on with TG. The progress you made at PyCon was (once again) astounding. I don&#8217;t consider myself an &#8216;insider&#8217; and yet I am amazed at the volume of work everyone is getting done.</p>
<p>I guess you just need an RSS feed on all the planets showing all the commits for all the projects. </p>
<p>Or do one of those new visualizations for the projects.<br />
SQLAlchemy is alredy done:<br />
<a href="http://vimeo.com/1227290" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/1227290</a></p>
<p>Or have a sprint called &#8216;Kitten Mash&#8217; so PETA can protest it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Horn</title>
		<link>http://compoundthinking.com/blog/index.php/2008/06/24/but-im-not-dead-yet/#comment-195724</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Horn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Mark.  I&#039;m really excited about all the work you guys have managed to put in on both TG1.x and TG 2.0, and I&#039;m really looking forward to seeing the 2.0 alpha release (ironically, development has been too fast for me to keep up with the trunk :) ).

One additional reason people may have gotten the idea that TG development has stalled, is simply that TG 1.x has become so darn STABLE.  It just hasn&#039;t really need much in the way of bug fixes, etc. lately, so the version number hasn&#039;t changed much in the last few months.  While there&#039;s lots of stuff in the trunk for 1.1, nobody who&#039;s not &#039;in the know&#039; has really been able to see it.

Anyway, it&#039;s something that the TG community will need to work on, but that&#039;s nothing new.

In the meantime: &quot;I feel happy!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Mark.  I&#8217;m really excited about all the work you guys have managed to put in on both TG1.x and TG 2.0, and I&#8217;m really looking forward to seeing the 2.0 alpha release (ironically, development has been too fast for me to keep up with the trunk :) ).</p>
<p>One additional reason people may have gotten the idea that TG development has stalled, is simply that TG 1.x has become so darn STABLE.  It just hasn&#8217;t really need much in the way of bug fixes, etc. lately, so the version number hasn&#8217;t changed much in the last few months.  While there&#8217;s lots of stuff in the trunk for 1.1, nobody who&#8217;s not &#8216;in the know&#8217; has really been able to see it.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s something that the TG community will need to work on, but that&#8217;s nothing new.</p>
<p>In the meantime: &#8220;I feel happy!&#8221;</p>
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