Actually, I think you’re doing a great job of providing some constructive feedback to me in the very same message that you talk about not being able to do it well. Perhaps you are better at it than you think ;)

i am very impressed by the positive and caring way you convey your concerns. I wished i were able to give “constructive advice / warnings” in such a kind and friendly way. The only critique one could have is that the talk could have been shorter (some repeating in the beginning of the talk). Or considered the given length you could have added some other exmaples, technical details.

But nonetheless i am really humbled by your ability give friendly warnings.

demugger – some german guy

It was great to meet you and chat during breakfast, and I enjoyed your talk. I’ve heard that some people didn’t take to the criticism too well — I believe it to be vital to the growth of frameworks like Django. Hopefully everyone realizes that Django has its weaknesses and talks like yours and Cal’s can result in addressing them.

May be also it’s time for we ( turbogearers 2 ) to rethink how can we attract more people , and may be we can hear something about it from django founders.

Congratulations!

Domingo Aguilera ( aka batok )

Matt: The django newforms-admin (now just admin) is much more flexible in it’s current form that the previous incarnation, but I expect there are plenty of places where it will be easier to do things manually, and this causes some z-shape curve.

But — the fact is that very large number of things are possible via the django admin, and it really is important to have a very easy way to get started quickly. So, I wouldn’t give it up.

Your talk seems very thought-provoking while at the same time flame-free… that must be a first, somewhere! :-)

I’m sure your talk will help dispel the Django fanboy image in favour of the rest of us — Django users/hackers :-)